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‪"... my 'difficulty' with how the Gnostic Christians fit into Theosophical thought - it seems to 'miss bits'."‬

‪--> I hope you were not looking for an exact match! Theosophy merely asks that you look at certain concepts, one by one, and see if they fit into your own personal belief system. (Theosophy never says you have to believe something, there is no Theosophical "Pope" issuing dogma.) The tricky part, of course, is when you come across a Theosophical concept that makes sense to you, but does not fit into your present belief system. Chaos then ensues. (Theosophy is famous for causing such chaos. As a matter of fact, I will go as far as to say that Theosophy's very purpose of existence is to cause such chaos when it is justified.)‬

‪Take a look at the differences between Gnosticism and Theosophy. Of those differences, which of them fit into your own person belief system? (I get the feeling that Gnostic ideas fit better into your own person belief system, especially when Theosophy and Gnosticsm disagree.)‬



‪Theosophy merely asks that you look at certain concepts, one by one, and see if they fit into your own personal belief system. (Theosophy never says you have to believe something, there is no Theosophical "Pope" issuing dogma.) ‬

‪Talk: Christian theosophy‬
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How does Christian theosophy differ from theosophy? --Wesley

Primarily by stressing the divinty of Christ, and by making repeated reference to the Bible. Did I not mention that sufficiently in this article? :( F. Lee Horn

This article doesn't seem to mention the Bible at all; I suppose it implies the divinity of "the Christ". Do they also believe in the humanity of Christ, or that he was a divine apparition? The reason for my initial question is that according to the theosophy article, theosophy encompasses the truths common to all religions, which made me wonder how much of Christianity would be accepted by "plain" theosophy as opposed to "Christian" theosophy. --Wesley

Admittedly, it's a fine distinction. Since I'm still working on the Theosophy article, my answer to this will have to be a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess): from what I know at this point, since Theosophy holds that all religions are attempts by mankind to connect with "the Divine," Christian Theosophy would simply be Theosophy with a Christian distinctive..i.e. that a "Christian Theosophist" would continue to believe the basic tenets of Christianity, but would also hold that Christianity was but one path to follow to "the Divine." Apparently a Christian Theosophist (sounds almost like an oxomoron, doesn't it?) would be compelled to forgo any belief in Jesus Christ as "the only begotton Son of God." Like I say, this is just a SWAG at this point. F. Lee Horn

Looking at this again, "Christian Theosophist" does sound like an oxymoron, since belief in Jesus as the only Son of God is almost universal among the various historic Christian groups. Have any "Christian theosophists" been spotted in the wild? Any resources concerning Christian theosophy? web sites? books?

As a theosophist I have to agree: the term Christian Theosophist is new to me. I mean, there are people who are Christian and Theosophist. The two don't bite, but other than that I don't think the term exists, let alone needs to be listed. Why not a Buddhist Theosophist also, and a Muslim Theosophist. One can create any term one wishes, and figure out what it would mean. But it only needs to be listed in an encyclopedia if the term starts to mean something specific to a certain group of people.
kh7 11:30 Mar 23, 2003 (UTC)

can this just be deleted??? kh7 19:22 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Since we appear to have consensus, I'm going to redirect this page to Theosophy rather than delete it, so as to avoid breaking links and losing this discussion history. Wesley 16:32, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
As an editor wrote in the "Esoteric Christianity" article, Christian teosophy predates the Theosophical Society and Martinism. Classic Christian theosophists include Valentin Weigel, Heinrich Kunrath, Johann Arndt, Johann Georg Gitchel, Jakob Boehme, Gottfried Arnold, Jan Baptist van Helmont, Robert Fludd, John Pordage, Jane Leade, and Pierre Poiret. On one hand, earlier Rosicrucian alchemists are also denominated as Christian teosophists (e.g. Jan Baptist van Helmont, Robert Fludd); On the other hand, the 19th century Theosophy is, in its origin, an Eastern philosophy which does not include a conception related to the Christ (although later, with teosophists as Annie Besant in her book "Esoteric Christianity and the Lesser Mysteries", it made an inclination toward a conception of Christ, as an attempt to integrate in teosophic conceptions. It was a quite polemic conception, erroneous in the central aspects according to the western esoteric tradition, which together with the issue of Jiddu Krishnamurti led Rudolf Steiner to leave the Theosophical Society. Steiner latter on wrote "Exoteric and Esoteric Christianity" also as an answer to her book from a western point of view to her book). This is a very brief analysis of an issue that has been already studied indepth during the last century. So, I'm re-directing to the more appropriate article Esoteric Christianity. --62.169.95.200 04:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

The Apocrypha Series (3/7) "Apocryphal Books of the OT Justified"!

Edwards Notes - NotePad
October 16th 2012
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"It can be quite confusing, but what I am going to attempt, is to distinguish the differences of these similarities, as well as to define and explain with clarity, so in the end we can have a complete understanding".
- EDGT.Urquico

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Islam -  Sufism
Judaism - Kabbalah
Christianity - Christian Mysticism
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Merkur on the Problem of Theosophy for Christian Mysticism


The basic problem was theosophy. The transcendent monotheisms of Islam and Judaism permitted theosophy to become dominant trends in Sufism and the kabbalah, but the Christian doctrine of the incarnation was unable to accommodate a theosophical approach to mysticism. The uniqueness of Christ could not readily be reconciled with a theosophy that comprehended the whole of creation as a series of hypostases. For Christ to be the only begotten son of God, his hypostatic union had to be unique. Hypostases could not be universal phenomena, as they are in Ismai'ilism, Sufism, and the kabbalah.
Gnosis, An Esoteric Tradition of Mystical Visions and Unions, p.240

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- EDGT.Urquico
The Main topic: Problem of Theosophy for Christian Mysticism
The sub-topic is Theosophy in relation with Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
- Monotheistic religions

("But the Christian doctrine of the incarnation was unable to accommodate a theosophical approach to mysticism. The uniqueness of Christ could not readily be reconciled with a theosophy that comprehended the whole of creation as a series of hypostases. For Christ to be the only begotten son of God, his hypostatic union had to be unique. ")

Within the context of Christian doctrine, concerning the incarnation

He was explaining that Islam and Judaism allowed Theosophy to dominate, in parts of Sufism and the kabbalah! But in contrast
to Christianity he was explaining that Theosophy would have no place, the difference would lie on the fundamentals of the religion itself, that within the context of the Christian doctrine, concerning the incarnation
- EDGT.Urquico

in essence Theosophy could not penetrate Christian Mysticism,

a possible theosophical approach to mysticism

within context to
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David J. Stewart of jesus-is-savior.com

"Christian mystic?  There is NO such thing as a "Christian mystic."  Christianity has nothing to hide."

Who is Emanuel Swedenborg?  He was an unsaved heretic, a Modernist, who falsely claimed to be a Christian...
Clearly, Swedenborg believed in a works based salvation, which is a sure road to Hell (Romans 3:20; Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8,9).  Carefully notice that Swedenborg was a "Christian mystic" ...

"....but would also hold that Christianity was but one path to follow to "the Divine."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AChristian_theosophy)
Since Theosophy holds that all religions are attempts by mankind to connect with "the Divine," Christian Theosophy would simply be Theosophy with a Christian distinctive..i.e. that a "Christian Theosophist" would continue to believe the basic tenets of Christianity, but would also hold that Christianity was but one path to follow to "the Divine."
Apparently a Christian Theosophist would be compelled to forgo any belief in Jesus Christ as "the only begotton Son of God."

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October 16th 2012
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Keywords


- Gnosticism
- Theosophy
- Nazism
- Esoteric
- New Age Religion
- Apocrypha

- Connections with Crowley and even Blavatsky.
Aleister Crowley had a deep respect from Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky who founded the Theosophical Society in 1875

• Gnosticism 
(from gnostikos, "learned", from Greek: γνῶσις gnōsis, knowledge) 

is the thought and practice, especially of various cults of late pre-Christian and early Christian centuries, distinguished by the conviction that matter is evil and that emancipation comes through gnosis.

Gnosticism was primarily defined in a Christian context.[1][2] Some scholars have claimed that gnosticism pre-dated Christianity. Such discussions have included pre-Christian religious beliefs and spiritual practices argued to be common to early Christianity, Hellenistic Judaism, Greco-Roman mystery religions, Zoroastrianism (especially Zurvanism), and Neoplatonism.


• Theosophy 
(from Greek θεοσοφία theosophia, from θεός theos, divine + σοφία sophia, wisdom; 

literally "divine wisdom"), refers to systems of esoteric philosophy concerning, or investigation seeking direct knowledge of, presumed mysteries of being and nature, particularly concerning the nature of divinity.

Theosophy is considered a part of the broader field of esotericism, referring to hidden knowledge or wisdom that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation


* Theosophy is essentially a modern version of Gnosticism

Metaphysics is such an esoteric subject that most people are content to leave it to the philosophers
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The term apocrypha is used with various meanings, including "hidden", "esoteric", "spurious", "of questionable authenticity", ancient Chinese "revealed texts and objects" and "Christian texts that are not canonical".

• Apocrypha
The word is originally Greek (ἀπόκρυφα) and means "those hidden away". Specifically, ἀπόκρυφα is the neuter plural of ἀπόκρυφος, an adjective related to the verb ἀποκρύπτω [infinitive: ἀποκρύπτειν] (apocriptein), "to hide something away."[1]

• The New Age Religion: brought to us by the Ascended Masters

maitreya theosophy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya_(Theosophy)

Theosophy Society
http://www.whale.to/b/theosophical.html

Theosophists: Annie Besant, Blavatsky  Aleister Crowley  Margaret Sanger

J. Krishnamurti, Theosophy, and the fabrication of the “new age” movement


http://www.newagedogma.com/the-illuminati-killed-jesus/
If you read the Bible, it wont be hard to see that the rulers of darkness controlled religion and gave Jesus a hard time during his whole mission.
Here’s an article by someone completely different breaking down the history of the Illuminati and why they killed Jesus.


Theosophy- "the knowledge of God supposed to be obtained by the direct intuition of the Divine essence." The term is derived from the Greek word: theos, a "divine being," (or) a "god"; sophia, "wisdom"; hence divine wisdom.


Syncretism /ˈsɪŋkrətɪzəm/ is the combining of different (often seemingly contradictory) beliefs, often while melding practices of various schools of thought. Syncretism may involve the merger and analogising of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths.

combining of different beliefs, myths